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link this post written on 07/10/2007
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kurze Zwischenfrage als Barcamp-Anfänger, da hier auf der Seite deutsch/englisch auch ein wenig durcheinander gehen. Wird ein, bzw. das Berliner Barcamp grundsätzlich in deutsch oder englisch abgehalten? oder ist das je session unterschiedlich?

Danke für Aufklärung.
link this post written on 07/10/2007
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Will the barcamp be in English or German?

This software here will be available in English soon. As soon as the interface is in English, the whole question might not occur.

I am not member of the organisational team, but I strongly suggest we keep all communication here (Forum) in English, so our visitors from overseas have a chance of understanding what is going on. And a German Forum might put many off. The Wiki can be dual language.

At the barcamp itself the main language should be English, too. We should only make exceptions in in sessions without non-German speakers. And these should stay exceptions. A simple question ("Would anybody object to me doing the session in German?") will clarify the situation. But you should switch if someone comes late and can not speak English.

Let us first try and make the non-German speakers feel welcome. Besides, what a great chance to practice English in professional surroundings!
link this post written on 08/10/2007
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sorry oliver, but as you mentioned, you are not part of the organization team. here are my 2 cents: of course we thought and discussed about this issue and at first glance my opinion was similar to what oliver said. because the web2.0 expo is so close and chances are high that non-german speaking guests attend. on the other hand we dont want to push anybody to speak in a particular language and having a talk in english of course can be a burden. the last thing we want is to keep anyone from hosting a session. our point is simple: the speakers themselves shall decide on their own and ad-hoc. simple, uh? barcamp style! the wiki once was bilangual but when we moved here to mixxt we dropped the german part because we are pretty busy and anyone will understand these few sentences anyway. the fact that the mixxt guys prefer an english communication has nothing to do with that.
link this post written on 08/10/2007
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The issue of multi-language (whether at unconferences or elsewhere) has come up in the past and will come up again in the future. For example, both BarCampRhine (Switzerland, France, Germany, Netherlands and others) and BarCampSenzaConfini (Austria, Italy, Slovenia) will probably face some of the same problems we may encounter here at BarCampBerlin2.

Maybe there's room for a session that addresses this challenge, looks into some of the solutions that are available today (online, offline, synchronous, asynchronous, professional, amateur, crowdsourced etc.).

I recently listed a few translation tools, but I'm sure there's a lot more out there we could collect and turn into one handy toolkit: [http://www.plansphere.com/blog/?p=607|List of collaborative translation tools]
link this post written on 08/10/2007
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Hi Alex

"the guys at mixxt" do not have an opinion to this topic. And "the guys at mixxt" do not interfere with organisation or anything else. This is only my private opinion as a barcamp fan and barcamp traveller. The reason or background for my opinion is my visit to the barcamp Shanghai a few weeks ago. The language barrier was a lot higher there. And even with a very basic understanding of the Chinese language it was quite frustrating to go to a session and not beeing able to understanding much.

Yes Alex, the problem you address should not be underestimated. Having less sessions is bad, and given the choice between not holding a session and holding a session in German, I would go for the latter. On the other hand it is quite frustrating and a lot less welcoming if you hear Chinese / German at every corner.

The session language really should be up to the person wanting to do the session. But to prevent dissapointments for our people from overseas, the person could mark the session on the offline-barcamp-wiki-board with an "DE" or "EN" or "DE / EN" (which could mean: "english is optional"). Then you could solve both problems we are talking about here. What do you think?
link this post written on 08/10/2007
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Wouldn't that be a little late? So you've traveled all the way to Berlin only to find out that you will only be able to attend a third of the sessions. That would kind of suck, or not? On the other hand, I know that topics are only put up on the board at the Barcamp itself, traditionally.

I'd like to hear the opinion of someone coming from abroad.
link this post written on 08/10/2007
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You are right with that one... In Vienna quite a few sessions were held in English, and it seemed to work quite well. I think there would be more sessions in English than a third. I guess we really need some input from abroad.
link this post written on 08/10/2007
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I think as soon as people see that foreign visitors are interested in the German BarCamp there might be a higher chance to have presentations in English. But I don't think you can't force people to hold their presentations in English as you can't presume that everyone is able to speak the language...
link this post written on 08/10/2007
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you got me wrong. "the mixxt guys prefer an english communication" was related to your product, not the barcamp...
link this post written on 10/10/2007
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as katti said, you can't force people to hold the sessions in english :-). but you as a native speaker could make sessions in english as well as nicole simon.

i think it'd be cool if there was a session about "german barcamping" or "german web 2.0" in english for our international attendees.
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